we saw with healthcare legislation in 2009 within 2010, a lot of opponent said, let's slow down, let's stop the hearings, that is the first step of stopping legislation. >> let's talk to rand paul for a second. how do we think his aspirations may be influencing a quick turn on immigration reform? >> it is a striking term from when his father was campaigning for the president spip particularly in 2007, 2008 when he ran tv ads very critical of comprehensive immigration reform. now you have rand paul part of the tea party. ron paul's son, endorsing in one way or another a type of pathway to citizenship. now, the devil is in the detail on the citizenship. it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people but the fact we are talking about republicans saying, how does this pathway to silt zenship hurt, a fundamental change from 2005, 2006, 2007, when that went down to defeat bush in the second term. >> thank you. sure do appreciate you. >> thanks. >> we are learning more about marines killed in a training exercise in nevada. family members say one of the victims was just 19 yea